Meaning Part 2: ‘Flow’ and ‘Fitted-ness’

March 3, 2010

In retrospect this question of awareness, experience and meaning (part 1) has been exceptionally difficult to parse and navigate. It was my intention to associate the experiential happiness of ‘flow’ and ‘play’ with the happiness of the numinous (relationship) experience, however there is a larger gap between these than I initially thought.

The ‘problem’ (mostly) is that I still (mostly) view meaning as arising from the ‘fitted-ness’ of any particular experience (thought, symbol, etc.) to one’s interior mental framework. On one hand, I think this ‘meaning as fitted-ness’ theory somewhat relegates meaning to an epiphenomenal side-effect in much the same way some people treat (rather scientistically) consciousness as (merely) an emergent property of biological complexity. I do not think I am being scientistic to think this way about meaning, because I am sticking to what I experience rather than what I believe about my experience. Indeed, the benefit I have by thinking of meaning this way (as emergent of framework ‘fitted-ness’) is that it has more explanatory power for my personal experience: things have (great) meaning, to me, when they fit (really well) what I already understand.

Yet on the other hand, the fact is I take the meaning I garner from how an experience (though, symbol, etc.) fits into my mental framework and what I already understand and I believe it and function as if it is meaningful for more than just me – that is I function as if those things are meaningful of themselves and (at least potentially) meaningful to everyone, not simply meaningful to me, as if it were (ojectively) real.

Although it is possible (likely even) both could be true to some extent, without understanding the mechanism of meaning I don’t think I can have it both ways: either (all) meaning is an emergent property of mental frameworks (a sort of translation of our experiences, etc.), or (all) meaning is (functionally) innate, indigenous and germane to the object associated.

Regardless (and back to my awareness of happiness problem), this ‘fitted-ness theory of meaning’ means that meaning is retrospective, and any happiness derived from the ‘fitted-ness’ of meaning (I think) is therefore also retrospective and not based on ‘flow’ and ‘play’, which are experientially based rather than retrospective. I do think we need both things, mind you, experiential and retrospective, but the mechanism of their functional integration still eludes me.

10 Responses to “Meaning Part 2: ‘Flow’ and ‘Fitted-ness’”


  1. [...] order to get a better handle on ‘Flow’ and ‘Fitted-ness’ from Meaning Part 2, I began thinking of them as a spectrum and ended up with an intersection of three different [...]


  2. [...] to answer another question I had, I do think meaning is both an emergent property of mental frameworks and used as if functionally [...]


  3. [...] for the sake of their partner.  We play (possibly are only playing) a part until we are no longer aware of ‘playing’ and either the ‘role‘ has become part of who we are or we are just being ourselves, or [...]


  4. [...] meaningful experiences. (This also somewhat answers the question of whence cometh the meaning and whether it’s retrospective, fuller exploration another [...]


  5. [...] recently as above, I have wondered about the nature of meaning and whether meaning itself is a retrospective emergent property of experience, and I divided meaning into two categoric poles of a spectrum (see also here and here) according [...]


  6. [...] things most intensely – and often only intensely experience the accurate hitting of the mark, the fitted-ness of a piece, the adequate filling of a hole by comparison with the experience of [...]


  7. [...] – in all their myriad forms and spectra, are both (all) systematic ways of predicting the fitted-ness of the experienced puzzle pieces to individual interior constructs. And the debate between them [...]


  8. [...] Moreover, I do not think only ever having subjective knowledge, only ever ‘knowing’ from a subjective system, means that there is no ultimate objective meaning, value and purpose, merely that we won’t know it with absolute obective level certainty. After all while it may (may!) be we can ‘know’ nothing more than the meaning we get from the very process of living life, it seems equally possible we are in actuality mapping the objective value. This is what I meant when I wondered whether there was any innate, inherent (objective) meaning that we just happen to experience subject…. [...]


  9. [...] interactive, ’both-and’ sort of ‘puzzle-pieced evaluation’ answer to the retrospective meaning versus immediate experiential meaning [...]


  10. [...] this ‘feels right’ interior compass sensation is caused by the new symbol’s fitted-ness, functionality and coherence with the general structure and other symbols of our interior mental [...]


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