Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny

January 11, 2010

‘Fate’ and ‘destiny’ are words and symbols of powerfully felt experiences and emotions, whether we deeply believe ourselves truly fated or destined or not. Romeo and Juliet were ‘star-crossed lovers’, and their appointment by the very stars of heaven not only fittingly reflected the transcendent nature of those powerful interior emotions, but also was befitting of the exterior circumstances of their untimely demise. Yet in the context of love the difference and similarity of fate and destiny are significant.

Fate, often with unfavorable connotations, is decided by an outside agency; a ‘fatality’ is an unwelcome end not chosen, we accept our (regrettable) fate, and we decide another’s fate. Fate refers to a predetermined future, an inevitable final outcome, status, or situation, the terminal full stop; yet as such ‘fate’ may also refer to events that are past or presently occurring but since they are ‘required’ for the final future fate they too are predetermined and inevitable: ‘it was fated they should meet now, for thirty years hence they would know each other upon their final field of battle.’

Destiny, often with positive connotations, is willfully participated in and accomplished by a person for themselves; we ‘make our own destiny’ and chose travel destinations. Destiny refers to one’s chosen course of action, yet as such it also may refer to past or present events that enable a person to achieve their chosen destiny, or even what must still yet happen before they accomplish their chosen destiny.

Thirty years is a lot of fate and destiny to have in my past before falling so deeply in love with my wife. Yet my experience of fate includes being who I am, and my interior composition, uxorious among many things, is something I do not feel I could change if I wanted to, and in the process of becoming more at ease with myself and becoming myself more fully, I experience a sense of fate revealing itself. As I choose (destiny) to increase the intimacy in our relationship, I experience a sense of our ‘having arrived’ (destination, destiny), but also a sense of all things past combining to arrive at a coordinated present (outside agency, fate, inevitability). Thus I find an accurate statement of my experience is: The destiny I have chosen seems, to me, to be my fate.

17 Responses to “Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny”


  1. [...] the love they already have, and difference isn’t better, no difference could be better, than the fate and destiny I feel with my wife. I don’t need to know any other interior space as I know, love, and know [...]


  2. [...] I can’t really express what it is about that moment either, but I know what he means because I too have experienced it, and this is why I rather don’t think of it as sex addiction or even an addiction to sexual energy; sex by itself does not equal the erotic truth or the desire dynamic I experience. I (now) think of it as a passion addiction, and this I believe is the culminating point of this past week’s worth of posts (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6): as all people have their framework symbol addictions, the particular form of my framework symbol addiction is to want, desire, and love passionately my wife, and to want to experience the same (or a similar) desire and passion of my wife. (I wonder if this compaction of our simultaneous separate passions is related to, possibly an expression of [?], the sensed unity of partners that we express as ‘being soulmates’, cf. Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny) [...]


  3. [...] of her interior too, as if there is a connection between us but one external to both of us (cf. internal destiny and external fate). I don’t believe such a connection comes by nature or by nurture, but I know it is more than [...]


  4. [...] there is the experience of the fateful and predestined ‘confluence of spiritual purpose’ I describe above as being co-captains on the same [...]


  5. [...] at peace with my wife, perfectly one with my wife, when I feel I was born to love her (c.f. Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny), when I feel I am 100% there for the purpose of participating in her happiness process. And, well, [...]


  6. [...] and life lessons -giving entire relationship numinous sense of service ‘meant-ness’, of fate and destiny. Posted by OctopusHeart Filed in Desire, Love and Wanting, Female led, Interior Experience, [...]


  7. [...] as something spiritual, something numinous and powerful. I have to resort to ideas of divinity, of fate and destiny, to the idea of soul mates and souls mating, to adequately express it. Possibly related posts: [...]


  8. [...] I have gone on about my experiential compaction of erotic truth with numinous experience with fate and destiny (cf. life lesson), the way in which my wife best (symbolically) understands my desire and [...]


  9. [...] when I am at one with my wife I feel as if I was born to love her, ’tis love’s fate, love’s destiny and love’s worth I should be here for her and with her, fulfilling a life purpose and doing [...]


  10. [...] at peace with my wife, perfectly one with my wife, when I feel I was born to love her (c.f. Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny), when I feel I am 100% there for the purpose of participating in her happiness process. And, well, [...]


  11. [...] have been thinking about regrets (again and again) and how I am fortunate to have so few now, largely because I am happy (enough) and do [...]


  12. [...] of love’s loss, the overwhelming pain of beloved’s absence, seem to say they were truly destined for tragedy because they loved so greatly and so passionately and shouldn’t have; and the [...]


  13. [...] preference she merely tell me what to do to make her happy: the frame of mind of loving her and the experience of doing what I’m supposed to be doing. Posted by OctopusHeart Filed in Individual Desire & Passion, Personal Growth & [...]


  14. [...] at peace with her, perfectly one with her, as though I were born to love her, as though it were love’s fate, love’s destiny and love’s worth I should be 100% there with her and there for her, for the purpose of [...]


  15. [...] been dealing with death and mortality, I have also been continuing some thoughts on regrets (again and again see also recently here and here). I realized yesterday that I’m not only enamored [...]


  16. [...] as in under your rule though not quite ‘your property’, ‘belong’ as in fate, destiny, ‘meant-ed-ness’, and ’functional, emotional [...]


  17. [...] an expression of [?], the sensed unity of partners that we express as ‘being soulmates’, cf. Love’s Fate, Love’s Destiny) ~ OH, Passion Addiction (A post I’m sorely tempted to reproduce here in it’s entirety [...]


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